Humorous or not, there was a video of a dog trainer that trained his (you guess it: German Shepherd) in German commands, partly so that when he worked with client's dogs, he could use English, and his German-speaking dog who would be in close proximity (useful for reactive training) wouldn't compete with the client's dog.
schoen 23 hours ago [-]
Reginald Foster, a great Latin expert whom I once got to study with, emphasized that Latin isn't inherently difficult as a spoken language, as evidenced by the fact that it used to be lots of people's native language and used for all kinds of ordinary daily purposes.
One of his slogans for this was "in Roma antiqua, etiam canes Latine locuti sunt" ('in ancient Rome, even the dogs spoke Latin').
jjtheblunt 23 hours ago [-]
"latine" with an e on the end is ablative, first declension?
amelung 22 hours ago [-]
This ‑e is an adverb ending. The belonging adjective is «latinus» ‹Latin›.
jjtheblunt 22 hours ago [-]
that makes more sense to me, because i asked thinking it was a typo on ablative with implicit lingua
schoen 17 hours ago [-]
Yes, one way of referring to Latin is "lingua Latina" or just "Latina", but there's an old custom of using adverbs to refer to use of languages. So Latine is "in Latin" or "Latinly" (and there are similar adverbs available for other languages).
Interestingly, the language adverbs are also used in a construction with scire (to know) or intellegere: "Latine scit" (he or she knows Latin), "Graece intellegit" (he or she understands Greek). In English we would definitely think of this as needing a direct object, but Latin allows it as an adverb, to understand "in a Greek way" (perhaps it would make sense to think of it as something like "in a Greek manner" or "from a Greek perspective").
jjtheblunt 4 hours ago [-]
yep totally understand, had four years of latin in the 80s, some Greek, and many more. it's interesting to see how an idea gets phrased slightly differently across even related languages, i have to admit.
chrisandchris 13 hours ago [-]
So we're doing the opposite. As we're in the German spesking part of europe, our dog listens to English to not interfere with daily talk. It's IMHO one of the best choices to take a foreign language for your dog. You can also use different languages for different setups (e.g. to differentiate fun, working). Dogs anyway don't speak the language, they just listen to the voice, but as an owner it's easier to set context by moving to a different language.
jancsika 22 hours ago [-]
The evil of global mutable state strikes again.
This is why I only train my dogs in a pure functional language.
bulbar 16 minutes ago [-]
I don't think you can entirely remove the side effect of getting treats.
Hackbraten 6 hours ago [-]
"Reduce!" ("Reduzier!")
"Map!" ("Bild ab!")
mckirk 11 hours ago [-]
Just don't be confused if they then follow the commands side-effect free.
yencabulator 19 hours ago [-]
It's merely the software architectural mistake of only constructing a broadcast channel.
Security by obscurity is fundamentally weak, this use wastes bandwidth, and can be destroyed by statistical analysis where the other dogs learn German.
vardump 4 hours ago [-]
> German-speaking dog
Impressive!
badc0ffee 23 hours ago [-]
I think if I said sitz to my English-trained dog, she would sit.
arjvik 34 minutes ago [-]
Turns out if we say any word with the same inflection as sit, our dog sits!
Esophagus4 22 hours ago [-]
Maybe your dog has been taking German classes while you’re at work…
sudb 23 hours ago [-]
I think this is a great idea in general - security through obfuscation, kinda.
BoredPositron 22 hours ago [-]
We do it with our herding dogs so you can give the different dogs different commands.
tomcam 21 hours ago [-]
Now I’m dying to know what kind of herding you do that requires this separation of powers
BoredPositron 17 hours ago [-]
Just sheeps and it's a small herd we have for fun next to our vineyards. One dog could probably handle thm alone but it's more fun with two ;)
I have one of these lol (a dog with competitive parents). Get a load of our breeder's website, its a trip back in time. https://www.glaurungkennel.com/
Definitely a trip back in time, I did a website almost exactly the same for Bernese mountain dogs except without the flame background.
tomcam 21 hours ago [-]
But with the batwings I hope
dole 21 hours ago [-]
Nah, those were a classy touch. IIRC it was some Thomas Kinkade-lookin' bullshit.
whalesalad 19 hours ago [-]
ah man I can totally picture that. very on brand for a big ass BMD living in like maine or vermont
tomcam 21 hours ago [-]
I totally want a batwinged attack dog now
daft_pink 23 hours ago [-]
Do they have other languages? My dog is an immigrant and it would be nice to use his native language.
NoiseBert69 23 hours ago [-]
Teach him Rust
Oh wait, wrong Thread!
bulbar 11 minutes ago [-]
> Oh wait, wrong Thread!
Pretty sure actual Rust advocates will disagree.
GuB-42 22 hours ago [-]
My dog doesn't know Rust, but he is fluent in Ruff!
advisedwang 22 hours ago [-]
I'm told (but have no direct knowledge) that many police dogs in the US are trained to german commands. This is because previously (and in some cases still) police departments used dogs trained in Germany and they have continued so that there is continuity of commands (ie you don't have to know which dogs speaks which language).
edwhitesell 21 hours ago [-]
Sometimes it's Dutch instead, but that's true.
Many agencies, especially those new to having K-9 or small departments that may not be able to spend time dedicated to training from puppies, get dogs from Europe that are partially or fully trained. The lineage of the working dog breeds is much better in Europe because many breeds have bloodlines that haven't been bred for generations to be pets (like here in the US).
It's also why agencies pay so much for the dogs. Last I heard (I used to be more involved volunteering with my local PD) a fully trained dog was around $25k, USD, a partially trained was something like $8k - $10. It sounds like a lot until you realize a fully trained dog is 18—24 months old when acquired and has been training every day during that time.
whalesalad 21 hours ago [-]
Yes, this is true. Many personal protection dogs as well.
rambambram 23 hours ago [-]
Haha nice one. As a kid I had these friends in the neighborhood (Netherlands) whose dad trained Malinois shepherds and sold them worldwide to security services and police units.
In my city are four day marches in the summer where also international military participate. Before dawn, all these soldiers walk from the forest - where they sleep - to the starting point. It was customary for us as kids to wave to the soldiers and wish them good luck and ask for some souvenirs/stickers.
One day my friends had their dog with them and we learned the command 'luid' (loud in English, laut im Deutsch) so the dog would bark. Early in the morning, exhausted soldiers that did not even had their morning coffee, very quiet outside, and then the dog would bark them to shock with our little whispers of 'luid'. Good times.
codethief 22 hours ago [-]
> 2. Drop it / Let go — Aus. In German, aus is a preposition meaning “out of.”
It also means "off" and – in sports – "offside", which I think is much closer to what "aus" means in this context.
stephbook 22 hours ago [-]
"Es ist aus" can also be translated as "It is over" (a game)
The meaning in dog schools is "Spit it out", but given aus's versatility within human language, it's often used as a general "stop" command. As in "aus", stop playing.
kuerbel 22 hours ago [-]
Not really, offside is Abseits.
In this case Aus means out like in spit it out or out with it, "raus damit".
Quanternion 6 hours ago [-]
I've only heard "Abseits" in football but "Aus" definitely exists in tennis.
croes 22 hours ago [-]
"Aus" means the dog should let go what’s in his mouth.
It means something like "Spuck es aus", "Spit it out"
codethief 3 hours ago [-]
There are many cases where people use it and the dog does not have anything in their mouth.
grasbergerm 22 hours ago [-]
"Aus" in a sports context means out.
frankus 22 hours ago [-]
I grew up speaking German and still use "zu!" with my (otherwise English-trained) dogs for "get out of the way!".
torginus 22 hours ago [-]
As someone who speaks German, it feels puzzling to me why I would teach my dog German commands (even though I have a GSD), these are just the regular words/phrases for things but in a different language.
EdwardDiego 19 hours ago [-]
It's better with dogs to use commands that sound harder for hard commands - stop, down, wait, etc. Which German's love of crisply pronounced consonants tends to lend itself to.
rolph 22 hours ago [-]
its a weak authentication. if you use a dog for work/husbandry, law military, it does two things.
1] regionally unfamiliar language, dog will obey your commands, but not commands of regional language.
2] parrallel handling, different dogs trained in different languages dont step on each others task,in response to the same cue command.
e.g. left dog, sprech im ze deutsch - right dog, govorite po russki
cjbenedikt 21 hours ago [-]
I hope your Russian is better than your German...;-p
rolph 21 hours ago [-]
i spoke both conversationally with my grandfather before he passed, he was russian/german i spoke english as native language, but later began learning a few others.
i get them mixed up when cold, but if speaking for a while i can get in a zone.
my spelling is atrocious i think i see where you complain:
Sprechen Sie Deutsch %:P
kazinator 23 hours ago [-]
These would be fun for voice control in a video game.
Which would be called Castle Woofenstein.
mrjoe3332 23 hours ago [-]
I've never seen a GSD actually obey the drop/aus command without you having something to trade for
throwway120385 21 hours ago [-]
The GSDs I grew up with would do it pretty immediately, but I had to occasionally praise them when they did it so they wouldn't lose the habit. They're pretty damn smart and will figure out some pretty complex behaviors just from positive reinforcement. I once taught a GSD in one session to sit patiently 10 feet away from the vehicle gate at my childhood home when I arrived home by stopping the truck every time started walking forward. By the 3rd or 4th time of my inching forward he had figured out that the only way to get me to pull in and get out of the truck was to sit patiently and I never had to train him on it again.
torginus 22 hours ago [-]
I've never even taught it to my dog, as she just drops toys at my feet after fetching them. She just enjoys the though of the stick being thrown too much to waste time on holding on to it.
9dev 21 hours ago [-]
What do you do when she picks up some food on the street? There are people who place meat interlaced with poison where I live; so having a surefire way to make mine spit out whatever he’s got in his mouth is essential
torginus 21 hours ago [-]
Dunno, I just yell at her, and she drops it and looks at me :) I haven't heard about poison meat, but she sure loves to find and eat the most disgusting stuff, up to, and including, poop.
system2 22 hours ago [-]
Crappy owners. The GSD I have is like a cyborg, yet very friendly. WFH help the training. Most owners do not train their dogs and the alpha in GSDs come out easily.
whalesalad 22 hours ago [-]
This tool is incredibly effective. ive zapped myself with it to test. feels like a very very strong static shock. Our dog Solo has been zapped only a handful of times. When he wears the collar now we don't even really turn it on or use it - just knowing it exists is enough for him to drop his frisbee/ball/etc. https://www.ecollar.com/product/ez-900-easy-educator-1-2-mil...
mrjoe3332 20 hours ago [-]
Some of them will know you're doing it and get pissed off
minusLik 2 hours ago [-]
In Germany, using shock collars on dogs is even verboten.
nyjah 22 hours ago [-]
Platz. That’s the one German command I give to my shepherd.
I trained her over 11 years ago using Michael Ellis videos and picked it up there. If she was younger I’d incorporate some more of these.
coldtea 7 hours ago [-]
All German sounds like dog commands
lukan 22 hours ago [-]
"Sitz" and "platz" sound too similar, so to make it easier, some german people I know use a mixture of german and english.
"Sitz!" for sit
"Down!" for down.
weinzierl 22 hours ago [-]
The most important one is missing:
Fass!
You better know what it means when a dog owner points at you and says "Fass!".
There is a hilarious episode by German comedian Gerhard Polt about this word where he plays the owner of a Kampfhund (the genuine grandson of the great-uncle of the dog of Adolf Hitler) who goofs around alternating between "Fass!" and "Nicht Fass!" not realizing that the dog is not capable of distinguishing between the two.
One of his slogans for this was "in Roma antiqua, etiam canes Latine locuti sunt" ('in ancient Rome, even the dogs spoke Latin').
Interestingly, the language adverbs are also used in a construction with scire (to know) or intellegere: "Latine scit" (he or she knows Latin), "Graece intellegit" (he or she understands Greek). In English we would definitely think of this as needing a direct object, but Latin allows it as an adverb, to understand "in a Greek way" (perhaps it would make sense to think of it as something like "in a Greek manner" or "from a Greek perspective").
This is why I only train my dogs in a pure functional language.
"Map!" ("Bild ab!")
Security by obscurity is fundamentally weak, this use wastes bandwidth, and can be destroyed by statistical analysis where the other dogs learn German.
Impressive!
informed is stronger than ignorant.
stay safe.
Our little buddy is the silver collar here, https://www.glaurungkennel.com/LitterK.html
Oh wait, wrong Thread!
Pretty sure actual Rust advocates will disagree.
Many agencies, especially those new to having K-9 or small departments that may not be able to spend time dedicated to training from puppies, get dogs from Europe that are partially or fully trained. The lineage of the working dog breeds is much better in Europe because many breeds have bloodlines that haven't been bred for generations to be pets (like here in the US).
It's also why agencies pay so much for the dogs. Last I heard (I used to be more involved volunteering with my local PD) a fully trained dog was around $25k, USD, a partially trained was something like $8k - $10. It sounds like a lot until you realize a fully trained dog is 18—24 months old when acquired and has been training every day during that time.
In my city are four day marches in the summer where also international military participate. Before dawn, all these soldiers walk from the forest - where they sleep - to the starting point. It was customary for us as kids to wave to the soldiers and wish them good luck and ask for some souvenirs/stickers.
One day my friends had their dog with them and we learned the command 'luid' (loud in English, laut im Deutsch) so the dog would bark. Early in the morning, exhausted soldiers that did not even had their morning coffee, very quiet outside, and then the dog would bark them to shock with our little whispers of 'luid'. Good times.
It also means "off" and – in sports – "offside", which I think is much closer to what "aus" means in this context.
The meaning in dog schools is "Spit it out", but given aus's versatility within human language, it's often used as a general "stop" command. As in "aus", stop playing.
In this case Aus means out like in spit it out or out with it, "raus damit".
It means something like "Spuck es aus", "Spit it out"
1] regionally unfamiliar language, dog will obey your commands, but not commands of regional language.
2] parrallel handling, different dogs trained in different languages dont step on each others task,in response to the same cue command.
e.g. left dog, sprech im ze deutsch - right dog, govorite po russki
i get them mixed up when cold, but if speaking for a while i can get in a zone.
my spelling is atrocious i think i see where you complain:
Sprechen Sie Deutsch %:P
Which would be called Castle Woofenstein.
I trained her over 11 years ago using Michael Ellis videos and picked it up there. If she was younger I’d incorporate some more of these.
"Sitz!" for sit
"Down!" for down.
Fass!
You better know what it means when a dog owner points at you and says "Fass!".
There is a hilarious episode by German comedian Gerhard Polt about this word where he plays the owner of a Kampfhund (the genuine grandson of the great-uncle of the dog of Adolf Hitler) who goofs around alternating between "Fass!" and "Nicht Fass!" not realizing that the dog is not capable of distinguishing between the two.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=I5sFagE-zqw
(In German, obviously - the Bavarian kind)
32 Attack - Fass
https://www.fluentu.com/blog/german/german-dog-commands/#toc...